It would help if, in collaboration with civic and other groups, Kinijit organizes worldwide protest rallies opposing the war, and call for a week of peaceful civil disobedience throughout Ethiopia...

more at:
http://www.ethrev.com/2006/nov/11282006_protest_war_with_somalia.html

I tend to be on the opposing side of the fence with ER on this matter. The reason is I want Meles to get in to this war and be weakened.

As it has been proven for the last fifteen years, Meles is a shrewed person who is capable of manipulating every situation to his survaival. So the only option we have to get rid of him is by catching him at such a decisive time.

What we need to do is to keep silent for him to go ahead and start the war, so that we can catch him off guard with his pants down.

Only then will we be able to drag his behin out of that palace.

RALLY BEHALF OF SOMALI JIHADIS?????

WHATS WRONG WITH ER THIS DAYS I NEVER AND EVER DISAPPONITED ON ER U USE TO TELL US ABOUT THE UNITY OF OUR COUNTRY ALRIGHT WE ALL KNOW THAT MELES IS ALL TIME DICTATOR JUST LIKE MENIGISTU BUT U SHOULD KNOW THAT WE ETHIOPIANS OR ETHIOPIAN ORIGINS ARE ALL UNITED FOR OUR COUNTRY WHEN WE FACE THIS KIND OF THREAT FROM OUTSIDE HAVINT U HEARD THE JIHADIS LEADER INTERVIEW LAST WK ON RADIO SHEBELEE HE SAID "we r not rest till we united all somali speakin peoples under the great somalia idology" SO R U TELLIN US THIS IS NOT A THREAT FOR OUR LAND??????

Read the following if you need the logical TRUTH. Enjoy reading.....

Truth Shall Triamph upon decption!!!
Freedom and Democracy for ALL!!!

Giiftii Oromiyaa
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Somalia, not our war!
28 Nov 28, 2006, 21:02

By Tadesse Tadele

Nov 28, 2006 � Throughout its history, Ethiopia had experienced repetitive external aggression against its sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Mahadists, the British, Italy, Somalia and very recently Eritrea had taken aggressive approaches and had invaded our country. In almost all these cases the Ethiopian people stood shoulder to shoulder and fought back in a spirit of unity with diversity. During such external aggressions, that threatened our sovereignty our people kept their differences aside and fought and scored victories in all the battles. In the above mentioned wars, Ethiopia was never been the aggressor, but the victim; it never invaded those countries but was invaded. Our forefathers won each and every battle for they had the moral, legal and political upper hand.

However the current war declared against Somalia by the PM Melles Zenawi lacks the spirit of Ethiopianness which our forefathers possessed. In this case, Melles invaded Somalia, that is, his soldiers are present in Somalia�s territory and not the other way around. Melles did not present us with any single evidence that shows that the Islamic Court Union (ICU) has crossed into our national border which we share with Somalia. Instead, he is using lame excuses to make the case that ICU is a threat to our national security.

One of the excuses is that the ICU has declared jihad against Ethiopia. Yes ICU did declare jihad but only against the Ethiopian soldiers who are present within Somalia territory. Even if the ICU had declared jihad against Ethiopian army present in Bidao, the PM had no legal or moral ground to send our soldiers to Somalia as long as ICU did not attack us within our own territory. In addition to wanting to directly engage the ICU militarily, the PM admits the presence of Ethiopian troops in Somalia in order to prop up the unpopular transitional government of Somalia. Again, PM Melles has neither the moral nor legal ground to be the caretaker for the fragile transitional government that has failed to stabilize the Somalia. It is true that instability in Somalia does affect Ethiopia, however, the Ethiopia PM is creating a very unstable Somalia by trying to install and safeguard a failed warlord led government that has been rejected by it own parliament. Therefore it was the illegal presence of Ethiopian soldiers on Somali soil that led the Islamists to declare jihad, and as far as the Ethiopian people are concerned the jihad was declared on Melles and his group not our country!!

The PM of Ethiopia also accuses the ICU of having links with terrorist organizations such as Al-Qaeda, therefore, it poses a threat to Ethiopia�s national security and international peace. We can not say for sure whether ICU has such link or not because neither the US nor Melles Zenawi had provided tangible evidence. Moreover we have not seen a single terror act conducted by ICU. Therefore I would say that these accusations could be similar to that of America which accused Saddam for having Weapons of Mass Destruction. As we know today, the truth is there was never been WMD possessed by Saddam. The accusation was based on false evidence to justify Bush�s aggression and invasion of the sovereign Iraq. Even if we assume that the ICU had links to terror groups, Melles has no legal ground to invade our eastern neighbor in defiance of the international communities� plea to restrain. As terrorism is becoming a global challenge, the war on terrorism should be fought with a wider participation of the international community. The PM should learn from the failure of the Bush administration who declared a unilateral war on Iraq defying the legitimate international body, the UN. President Bush, who disregarded the UN and other nations because of the American hegemonic power, now faces uncertainty and unpredictable crisis. The US who went to Iraq to �finish the job� in less than 6 month is still stuck in Iraq after 3 years, which is longer than the American involvement in the WWII. At this time America is in a position where they can neither pull out nor stay in Iraq. If Melles proceed with his current madness and send our youth to Somalia without the mandate of the Ethiopian people and the international community, the horn of Africa will be embroiled in a crisis much worse than the one we are witnessing in Iraq now.

The third excuse Melles present is the role Eritrea is playing in training and arming the ICU. Mr Afaworki, the President of Eritrea, just like his counterpart in Ethiopia is making a terrible mistake by involving in Somalia�s internal affairs. This actually shows the basic similarity these two leaders have. These are the two leaders who collaborated in dismantling Ethiopia, and later triggering a nonsensical war between the two states that cost the lives of more than 100,000 innocent youth for nothing. Having said that, Melles does not have to invade Somalia just because his rival is involved. As long us Eritrea does not re-invade our sovereign territory along the ICU, Melles has no legitimate reason to declare war on Somalia. For Melles who actually stopped our soldiers from capturing Asmara that could have deposed the current regime in Eritrea, it is a shame to prepare our youth to be re-slaughtered again for the same stupid proxy war with Eritrea on Somali soil.

The unjustified invasion of Somalia that the Melles regime is undertaking is simply Melles� war, and not Ethiopia�s war. If this war break up as it is declared by Melles, the Ethiopian people do no benefit any thing. It will have a devastating consequence for Ethiopian people in general and for our people who live in the East bordering Somalia in particular, namely Hararghe and Ogaden regions. It is important to remember that these are the regions that had suffered frequent drought especially during this regime and recent flood disaster from which they have still not recuperated yet. It will be a crime against humanity for this regime to make these people suffer from this unjustified, illegal, immoral and pointless war once again.

Therefore, Ethiopians from around the world should voice against Melles� war-mongering stance and help stop this regime from leading our country to disaster. We should tell the world that this is not our war; neither does it reflect the tradition in which our country has engaged its neighbors in the past. Our Somali neighbors should also call up on the ICU not to cross into our national boundary. The Somali people deserve to be ruled by the group they believe would bring peace and harmony to their country. If they support ICU for such reason, the Ethiopian people would not object. However, the ICU must refrain from crossing our border for any reason whatsoever. The question of Ethiopian Somali�s should be addressed within Ethiopia through peaceful negotiation with groups such us the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF). ICU has no legal ground to speak on behalf of Ethiopian Somalis and nor does Melles has the right to invade Somalia. Our Eritrean brothers should also demand their government not to use Somalia for a proxy war with the Melles� regime. The war PM Melles is gearing up to start in Somali will be a disaster for the people of Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea and the region as a whole. In order to prevent such a disaster befalling the horn of Africa, the war hawks in the region, particularly Melles Zenawi should be stopped sooner than later

After all this is not Ethiopians war! This war is the desire of Melles and his cohorts who are accustomed to thriving by terrorizing our people, this time in order to divert attention from its domestic political tensions. Stop them NOW and safe thousands of lives!

* The writer is an Ethiopian college teacher residing in Dire Dawa and can be reached at tadessetadele@yahoo.com

Hi Elias,

Your position on Somalia is outstanding and politically astute at this time. I know a bunch of bootlikers for weyane responded negatively to your suggestion. This is exactly what the armed groups should do.And if Shabia has some guts, this is the time to whip the weyanes. And the armed groups should intensify their armed struggle where ever they are within Ethiopia right now. This is the most fertile time to gain a stronghhold against the Weyane thugs.

Melese and his killer gangs were destroying our country hiding among our former enemies like Siad Bare of Somalia and Sudan. Melese is a mercenary that does not even want to mention the name of Ethiopia in his mouth. Now all of a sudden, he became a nationalist. ha ha ha ha!!!!! OLF, EPPF, ONLF and other armed groups in Etiopia should take this advantage to gain a stronghold and intensify their armed actions. Elias I agree 1 million percent on this one with you. Remember I disagreed one million percent with you concerning Kidetu ( your Lidetu) Yayelew (Ayalew). I still expect your confession and apology concerning Kidetu Ayalew and Dr. Berhanu Nega. But your position on Somalia including holding a conference and mobilizing a demonstration rally is intelligent and timely. Great Idea Elias. Ignore the rotten ideas coming from the bootlickers of a dying regime like the Weyane Fascists. They are desperate because they are about to die soon. The momentum for their funeral is building before they were consumed by fire.

For EPPF, OLF, and ONLF and other armed movements and as well as Kinijit. This is not the time to compromise but it is a golden opportunity to intensify the struggle. This can be the best time for the opposition to find the enemy at his weakest point that may tip the balance to the oppositon's favor.

Thanks,
K. Bekele

Giiftii Oromiyaa

you are the only one that is supporting ER. and obviously you are OLF agent

anyway even your point is unreasonable. italia defeated our troops in 1935. i think, if we had a better plan that just waiting for the italians in 1935, we would have won. But we didn't. Anyway, being flexible is important.
We faced nationalists before but jihadists haven't grown like this before. And suicide bombers and jihadists are very hard to stop. ask george bush.
and if the I.C.C. controlls all of somalia after 2 years, ethiopia will be on her knees!!

it is important that we destroy the base of I.C.C. while it is still a baby. also we wilil gain favors from the TFG too. puntland and everyone don't want jihadists either.

it is a simple one. Shabias Kifle will never understand this.

nebsu:

Did you say UIC is "a baby"? Why don't Meles send "babies" then? Why did he call them "a threat"? Your days are numbered my buddy!! You better open your eyes and find your way out. The so called TG of Somalia is a dead body whose corpse is taken care of by Woyane soldiers in Baidoa. It has no life at all any longer.

Giiftii

Is ER misleading? Read the following article written by Reuters on 11/28 to judge if Meles is going to war to protect our national interest.

By C. Bryson Hull

NAIROBI, Nov 28 (Reuters) - Twice badly burned in Somalia, the United States appears to be pursuing a third intervention that many Western and regional diplomats say could set off a disastrous war in the Horn of Africa.

Sent into a policy tailspin by its backing of Mogadishu warlords toppled by Islamists earlier this year, Washington has resurrected a two-year-old plan to send African peacekeepers into Somalia.

Peacekeeping, Somalia and the United States have proved a volatile mix. Washington abandoned a joint operation with the United Nations after 18 U.S. soldiers were killed and hundreds of Somalis slaughtered in the 1993 "Black Hawk Down" incident.

U.N. diplomats say Washington is expected this week to unveil a draft Security Council resolution authorising the peacekeeping mission.

But a chorus of voices from Western and regional diplomats to independent analysts say deployment is likely to trigger war between a shaky, Ethiopian-backed interim government and the powerful Eritrean-backed Islamist movement.

"If they take the cheap, easy option for peacekeepers, without recognising there is a very expensive follow-on like they did in Iraq, then they are going down the same track," said a Western military expert who follows Somalia.

With the Islamists trenchantly opposing any foreign intervention -- particularly Ethiopian -- and saying it will be grounds for holy war, even an indirect American hand in Somalia's crisis could set east Africa ablaze, experts say.

Diplomats say Washington is pushing a plan originally backed by IGAD, a seven-nation east African diplomatic grouping that is itself split over Somalia and the thousands of troops deployed there by U.S. ally and member Ethiopia.

Ethiopia has acknowledged sending in several hundred military trainers but denies sending combat troops.

"The argument being advanced is that this is to prevent Ethiopian intervention, but you cannot prevent something that has already happened," said a European diplomat. "Washington is running against the tide of international and regional opinion."

"SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY"

Diplomats say Britain and France back Washington, but are trying to reduce the force's mandate and cut out the participation of soldiers from neighbouring east African nations -- which the Islamists oppose as a violation of sovereignty.

A U.N.-commissioned report earlier this month said at least 10 nations -- including five of IGAD's seven members -- are militarily backing the Somali rivals, adding fuel to an already combustible mixture.

"The region is sullied by its associations with both parties," the European diplomat said. "Ideally, there wouldn't be any Security Council resolution."

A war of leaks and propaganda designed to paint the anarchic nation either as a battleground for the West against terrorism or for Islam versus Western-backed invaders from Ethiopia, has ratcheted tensions to breaking point.

"Neither side seems to want to call this a simple struggle for power that could be resolved through negotiation," regional analyst Matt Bryden said. "If the international community acquiesces and approaches this problem as another war on terror, that will become a self-fulfilling prophecy."

The U.N. report, on violations to Somalia's widely flouted 1992 arms embargo, warned this month that fighting between the Somali factions would drag in Ethiopia and Eritrea and could result in terrorist attacks in Kenya and Ethiopia.

That report also included some widely questioned accusations about Iranian and Hezbollah backing for the Islamists that diplomats say were likely planted by Western intelligence agencies to demonise the latter.

Those accusations came soon after two letters surfaced that were said to be written by a top Islamist advocating assassinations, suicide bombings and the instigation of uprisings among ethnic Somalis in Ethiopia and Kenya.

Though experts question their authenticity, diplomats say the United States opted for deployment of peacekeepers rather than dialogue after Somalia's government produced them to back its and Addis Ababa's accusation that the Islamists are led by terrorists.

"All of these moves push us to the threshold of war. We are at that threshold now. Anything else like this will push us over," the military expert said.

All that may be keeping the dogs of war at bay, he added, was rain -- which is flooding much of Somalia and making it hard to move soldiers and weapons around.

Sources: Reuters, Nov 28 2006

Elias,

Way to go guy! This ain't our war, let Meles send his agazi to duke it out with the ICU. The blood sucking gangster is digging his own grave.

Delete all these woyane frifari lekames. They are barking like mad dogs cause No Meles, No scraps.
It is funny to hear these banda traitors talk about Ethiopian nationalism. Shame! Shame!

ER

I support your idea a miiiion and one times dont be botherd by those enfantile disorder ( woyane Supporters) wait !! you aint see any thing they will come to us in full force !!!It is their last breath !! Go ER !! GO ER !!! tell the world about these vampires ; expose them ;

ER

yes kinijit must call mass demonstration against meles and woyanne Government

Bravo Elias! Continue with your courageous stance to invite views on current affairs affecting our beloved motherland, Ethiopia. Do not be deterred by negative criticisms of the die-hard supporters of a criminal regime of the traitor Meles Zenawi who has has left Ethiopia landlocked and gave orders to his Agazi security forces, which killed 193 in cold blood, injured hundreds and incarcerated thousands of innocent Ethiopians. Let us not fall prey to the diversionary tactic of the traitor. Our number one priority must be to bring the traitor to justice for his heinous crimes. Lastly, I salute Kinijit for its stand to resolve differences through. We cannot support loss of lives, spillage of blood and injuries of our young citizens as in the senseless Ethio-Eritrean war of 1998-2000.

Well it is in the nature of dictators to fight to the end to preserve their power. Look what Mobutu, Ziad Barre and others have done; they have left a legacy of devastation. This is what this Woyanne Meles is doing to Ethiopia. All Ethiopian must oppose this proxy war that Meles is quick to wage to preserve his power while at the same time doing the dirty work for USA. Every one knows once this war spirals out of control Meles and his hench men will go into exile while the people of the region will live in perpetual civil conflict. America having pushed for this war will blame the suffering people as they are doing the Iraqis today.
We have to judiciously combine anti-war movement with the struggle for democracy.
The ICU has never been a threat to Ethiopia; the threat is the Woyanne bandas monopolizing political, social and economic power while creating a Bantustan like system for the rest of the Ethiopians.
It is Ionic how this minority group is rushing to defend another hated and minority group in Somalia. I can not see how the so called brilliant Meles plan to win wars in three fronts; Eritrea, Somalia and internally. Well, may be this is going to be how woyannes will be blown to the winds. Every thing has an end!!!

Woyane can fight Colonel Aweys and co. as they wish. This will not change how the majority of Ethiopians view Woyane after their engagement with UIC and their supporters. We can deduce this from past experiences of woyane against Shabia. Meles was evil and will continue to be evil in the eyes of Ethiopians. Therefore, I wish Meles and his gangs to take out Aweys and co. and latter be confronted by us, Ethiopians.

I can see the dilemma of kinijit as a member of AFD, which involves the ONLF that is directly backed by IUC and fighting to "liberate" the Ethiopian territory the IUC is laying claim against Ethiopia. We are opposed to war but I am not sure why kinijit has to go it alone, perhaps Professor Getachew whispered to them to do so.

This is not something that can be decided in this manner. It needs to be looked at carefully and the decision should have a strategy for best outcome in favour of the Ethiopian people. I don't understand why kinijit keeps failing in the areas of decision-making process in the important matters. Making a mistake is one thing all people who are in action do but failing to learn from it is stupidity. Their hasty decisions landed where they are now and it wants take down everyone with it. Please slow down and come up inclusive strategy.

This war is not fair for us and we shall not show keep silent as always, please let us raise our hands and together and express demonstrate our opposition towards this unfair war to be involved.

Why are all these Woyane lovers shouting at Elias. What he tries to do to show us the way we could live in peace with our neighbours and show this stand of us to them. How could you guys support Meles to go into Somalia and ignite war. Tomorrow is our turn. Our state is failing by the day. We will face the same problem of forming a country again. If we are trying to hinder the Somalians to have their own working state after such a long time of statelessness, we are being so cruel. This is not good at all. Think guy think. I personally accept Elias's advice to organize a demonstration to express our firm stand against Meles Zenawi regarding the issue of Somalia invasion. The civil disobedience call is not necessary because the people on uninterrupted civil disobedience since election 2005. Our people are doing it in their own ways without being noticed by the brutal Murderer Meles Zenawi.

Great Elias. Don't be afraid of expressing your mind. It is the duty of a free man. You may be critized but it ok. You can change your mind whenever you think it necessary.

Stupid woyanes must go where they came from. Or else their burden is piling up everyday.

I am not a revenger. I am a justice sicker.
Cheers

My name is Les Neuhaus and I am the American Associated Press foriegn correspondent in Ethiopia - this is the most ridiculous piece of writing I have seen yet by the so-called Diaspora web sites and is, I must say, an embarrassment for your web site (because you published this - for lack of a better word - garbage).

Good luck with your very pathetic web site.

(For verification if this is Les Neuhaus, call me: 251.(0)911.820.788)

I am:

US justice department and FBI may take up a BIIIG magnifying glass and examine deeeep in to your ass hole in order to find out as to what makes you foam for killing and spilling innocent human blood of poor Africa people. You must be charged with the capital crime of adicted serial killer and anti human and anti social behavior. Do you think the African people miss killers and genocide perpetrators?

Our people need, more education, more healthcare, more peace, more intercultural and interethnic harmony, more economic development, democracy, justice, welbeing, good governance, and building happy and optimistic life attitudes here on earth.

The enemy of the Ethiopian as well as the brotherly Somali people is the bloodthirsty Ethiopian dictatorship who diverts human and material resources from education, healthcare, peace building, intercultural and interethnic harmony development, poverty reduction, good governance, and use the resources for the destruction of humanity and perpetuation of injustice.

We should hold hands and resist the black nazi war and violence factory and its disgraceful running dog mad cadres. Humanist people's power will always win just like it won against Adolf Hitler.

As the saying goes - Right is right, no matter who opposes it. Wrong is wrong, no matter who condones it….

In our particular case, Elias is absolutely right! Woyanes are dead wrong! Beqa! Aleqe Deqeqe!

Whether you Woyane cadres and the other blithering Idiots like Les Neuhaus, Dagmawi and Ben like it or not, we the real children of mama Ethiopia appreciate and admire the courage of true Ethiopians like Elias & Al Mariam who step up to speak what they believe, especially when it is contrary to the Ideas of the notorious Human-flesh grinder Zenawi.

No war against Somalia!!!!
This time Somalia has no intention to invade Ethiopia.
Somalia wants to setup an islamic government.
Almost 100% of Somalias are followers of islam religion. It is their legitimate right to setup an islamic republic.
Those countries like Ethiopia trade in the name of democracy, and call themselves as "federal democratic republic of Ethiopia" to cover up its wrong doing and to disguise foreign beneficiaries. M.Zenawi is neither chrstian nor muslim. The illegal government of Meles Zenawi has no respect for christianity as well as islam. As Meles Zenawi is concerned, his illegal government is also a pagan & savage government.
This war is a proxy war. Besides it is a calculated plot to deploy foreign troops on somalian soil. This will have negative consquences on the soverignity of East African nations.Especially to Ethiopia.
Before it is too late, it is advisable to remove M.Zenawi from his post and put him in Kaliti prison until he is extradited to the Den Hag. Let us Demand the resignation of all ministers, dissolve the "parliament" and setup a provisional care taker government.
Condemn the US intervention in the internal affairs of East African nations.

Long live the people of Ethiopia and Somalia !!!

World wide demonstration against the involvement of ethiopia in the somalia war is important to pressure Melese by USA to release our leaders. Because it is in the best interest of america to crush the islamist somalias because of the expansion of terrorism by the taliban like government of somalis. Without the concess and unification of Ethiopians the war against the somalias would be difficult. In order to get the desired results America should make a maximum push on melese to release our leaders. It is a good opportunity to go out for a massive demonstration to show soladierity to our imprisoned leaders and oppose the war without ethiopian unification on the issue. America will do everything to get our leaders released if they wan to successed.

Go for demo.

This is probably the 1st time since May 2005 that we are speaking the same language. When I say "we", I mean Ethiopians abroad and those of us who are living in Ethiopia. I feel happier today than I felt in the past few months.

The same suggestion was reflected by participants of the Great Ethiopian Run on Sunday. They chanted "If you want us to fight, release our leaders first".

So, keep up the good work.

Freedom is on its way!

Bravo Kasahun Hilemariam, Bravo Kinjit, Bravo Ethio media, for the most valuable and timely efforts you are making to avoid an upcoming disasterous regional war in East Africa. All remaining political groups, civic organizations, Human rights organizations and all people of the region, especially, Ethiopians and Somalians, living in the region or outside should condemn the madness being exhibited by Meles Zenawi and Bush.

Tassew

Good job ER. I am ready for the rally!! I won't allow young Ethiopians beiing used as human mine-sweepers once again. The Oromo youth comprise the significant number of Meles' conscripts that were used as mine sweepers by TPLF during the Ethio-Eritrean war. We should not allow this to be repeated.

There is no doubt that the Tplf regime's meddling in Somalia is a recipie for disaster that would engulf the entire Horn of Africa for generations to come. The US state department specially Ass. Secretary Jendai Frezer must reconsider her position regarding the situation before it is too late. It is believed that it is her that engineered the failed policy of helping the war lords against extrem elements in Somalia that back fired and gave the UIC a popular support. She is wrong again. It is high time that seasoned politicians who understand the complex situation on the ground take care of the issue. She also made consecutive inflmatory statments that didn't help the situation. The only way out of this impass is 1. Tell all the negbouring countries to get out of Somalia. 2. Stop the misinformation coming from the Tplf regime about the UIC in order to advance on its invasion policy in a short-sighted policy of deflecting attention from the internal crisis and garner international support (monetary and political). 3. Be impartial and honest peace brokerage. 4. Engage the UIC without any pre-condition. Endorsing the Tplf regimes invasion of Somalia is DEAD WRONG.

ICU is not a threat to Ethiopia ??

This is Joke of the month. ER is getting to be a good comedian. ICU may not have the capacity to attack Ethiopia now. But it has shown that it will take Ogaden by force. IT has trained and worked with OLF and Eritrea in which both are Enemies of Ethiopia. It is funded by Egypt and Sudan who have a high stake on the nile river. IT is also funded by Iran and Libya, countries who sought the islamisation of Ethiopia for long.

We know Meles is bad for Ethiopia. But surely he is doing the right thing this time to take them out before they become real danger.

Ethiopians in the Diaspora have responsibility to condemn the invasion of Somalia, and we should not be indifferent to this blatant violation of soverign border of a neighboring country by Melese's contracted soldiers.

The regime propaganda has not succeed so far to call any public support for this war, because as we saw from last week Great Run in Addis any mass gathering will quickly turn in to anti-regime rally.

Those of us who live abroad should come out and protest against the invasion of Somalia and call for immediate withdrawal of foreign troops primarily Isayas and Melese's contracted soldiers.

Dear All,
Wether the diaspora opposition such as yourself are against it or not, Ethiopia will win the war, Ethiopia is not the agressor, The UIC did not call for a Jihad after Ethiopian Soldiers presence in Somalia, why are we twisting the fact, oh ya the hate politicians who never want to accept that EPRDF has won the elections, hey wake up, you can boy-quote anyting you want, you can boycott all you can, you can do all your civil disobedience, as you have done previously, but i tell you, youre not going to change anything, and i will still be sitting in Addis laughing at you, like am doing right now, Bravo Elias, you are making fortunes playing the Diaspora Idiots, sorry, i meant parkiologists. Agerih gebeh atisrana, yene Elian fund masebasebia hun, wey **** kenesu fund tekafel, and dont be acting as if you love your country, if you do, dont be sitting at Dukem or Roha, come and die for your country,
Thanks but no Thanks,
Dawit Abebe

Once up on a time our beloved Patriarch Abune Merkorios - the predecessor of Aba Diabilos aka Abune Paulos - said:


“Woe upon Erkus Woyanes who say that Bad is Good and Good is Bad” ultimately they will spin in Gehanem.

Ewnetachewn new kidus Abatachin Abune Merkorios

It is apparently clear that invading other nations teritory under any pretext is the worst politco-military disaster to the invader. Meles is simply trying to redress his brut image by obeying to what the USA asks him to do.
USA is getting its 2nd lesson of humilation from Iraq, after Vietnam. Again, USA is desperately breeding its little dogs here and there, to share the humilation with like minded militarists. Meles is their favorite dog.

Fellow Ethiopians!!
The people of Somalia and Ethiopia shall remain neighbours and brothers, sharing not only a long common border but also good and bad times. Pleasing USA at the cost of declaring war at our brothers will not serve any purpose. It rather leaves behind a never healing scar among the two brotherly people. This is what Meles and gang want to do.

"Yeraswa arobat yesew tamaslalech"
Somalis are in trouble for lack of stable and central authority, but still it remains their affair to bring about stability and peace in what ever shape they might choose. Ethiopia too is in trouble that requires a huge effort to resolve it. The current regime in Ethiopia has no right, what so ever, to dectate the type of govenment Somalis may have.

George Bush lectured the world that he is going to install democracy in Iraq, just 3 years ago. Today he couldn't find the safe way to cut and run, let alone install democracy.

Death to Meles and gang Ethiopia shall overcome the curse of wayane.

The Somalia issue is very delicate and should be addressed very deligently and carefully. All nations have national interest and will try to keep their own best interest within and outside their own borders. Ethiopia have a national interest in what is going on within its neighbor countries. The actions and indications of what the ICU will take should be looked into very carefully because:

1. the ICU for its own survival will have to listen and take action on behalf of its backers namely Shabia, Iran, Libya, Egypt, etc. This is not good for Ethiopia.

2. As a nation somalis have the right to have whatever form of government they deem good for them. The ICU is no different and if all somalis want them it shouldn't be our business. But the elements within the ICU who advocate fanatical Islamist ideas imported from groups like juhadist, etc should be taken seriously.

3. If the ICU is interfering in Ethiopia's affairs by hosting or helping the elements like ONFL then we should take action only it that regards.

The facist TPLF regime have sent troops to Baido to help secure the weak transiltional government which is the biggest mistake but ofcourse TPLF was told to do so by its masters in the West and will be paid handsomely while it helps its own agenda at the same time to divert attention in Ethiopia from the political crises gripping the nation.

As far as organizing a rally as Elias recommended, I would be aganist it because though TPLF is wrong on sending troops into Somalia on the other hand the ICU is responsible also for interefering in Ethiopia's affairs and also by declaring that Ogaden is Somalia's. TPLF should have created a buffer zone in side somalia like 20 miles and leave somalia to somalis. Of course indirectly if they want can help which ever group it likes like all other countries are doing. Let's not forget that other anti Ethiopia countries and directly not only helping the ICU but also sending military personnel which is aganist our own national interest to have anti ethiopia elements on our shores. Of course one of them is TPLF in Addis but for now we need to see the somalia crises.

May God bless Ethiopia and keep her safe.

Actually this war with the Somalia Jihadists could be to the advantage of Ethiopian patriots.

If a major conflict occurs between Woyane and the Somalis, it will split the Woyane force on two and might hopefully lead to the destruction of Tigray in the hands of Shaebia.

It might also lead to the destruction of Ethiopia, but the present Ethiopia is too sick to save. What we need is a regeneration. But the regeneration of Ethiopia will not occur until the Tigray backbone is shattered forever. Tigary must never recover afterwards.

Elias Kifle is attempting to blow the AFD, OLF, UICs of Somalia position and make it sound heavy. He makes the OLF-AFD-UICs line of argument so disproportional and exaggerated that the Ethiopians in Diaspora are at risk to be misguided. At least his reporting about the Sunday run in Addis and what was being posted each day on the ER front page in support of the OLF, AFD and other anti-Ethiopia elements indicates both his partisan stand on the Ethiopian issue and that he may be highly paid by these anti-Ethiopia organization to accomplish their mission.

Berhane Mewa on German radio(DW)---on Ethio-Somalia crisis!!

I listened to the interview. The foolish Mewa has exposed his ignorance about international relations and world politics. He tried to appear smart and an advocate of peace accusing the Ethiopian gov't as an aggressor interfering in the internal affairs of Somalia?
Where has this moron been when the Union of Islamic Courts was making an official claim on the Ogaden and when it declared a Jihad war on Ethiopia? Was he conspiring as usual to break down the country into tribal fiefdoms with Shabia, OLF, and ONLF? We know that he has been conspiring with his master Shabia and the stooges OLF and ONLF under the auspices of the dead AFD.
According to the confused Mewa the UN has to fight the terrorist Union of Islamic Courts on behalf of Ethiopia. Has he really lost his mind? Where has the UN fought a war to ensure the territorial integrity of a sovereign power? The UN doesn't have its own army and if we take this moron's suggestion very seriously, we would surrender the Ogaden to the Union of Islamic Courts with out a single bullet being fired. Then we wall go to the UN to liberated our territory on our behalf. These shows how immature and mediocre are Kinijit officials that sent the party to its death chamber. Mr. Mewa, you can go to the UN when you assume power.
Doesn't this confused man know some Ethiopian history? The boundaries of our country are marked with the blood and bones of patriotic Ethiopians. There is no more sacred and holly responsibility for a gov't than defending both the peace and territorial integrity of its people and country. Please read the book by Porf. Mesfin Woldemariam title:"Somalia: the problem child of Africa". Since you existence is hung on the good reputation of the professor, I hope you will learn a lot about Ethio-Somalia relations since Somalia's independence.
Mewa also mentioned that the war has a religious dimension and suggested that it should be avoided as much as possible. Again, has he been hibernating, cut of from the world and living in a vacuum? He and his party who try to exploit and disseminate fear of a potential religious war would give in to the demands of the Union of Islamic courts. Does he know anything about nationalism and patriotism? Thank God that such coward and confused characters and their party are not in power for by now the Ethiopia we know would have been disintegrated in to tribal fiefdoms. That is what is agreed tacitly in the AFD. A responsible gov't will treat all religions fairly and equally to avoid religious conflicts and frictions. The gov't has a proud record on this issue. At the same time any responsible gov't wont ran away from defending the territorial integrity from external threat. Moreover, as suggested by Mewa it won’t sit and watch till the expansionists occupy the Ogaden by force.
The confused Mewa also suggested that the problem should be resolved diplomatically. What does diplomacy mean to Mewa? I wish he explained it further. Unfortunately, he didn't for he doesn’t know what he bluffs. Contacting the Union of Islamic Courts with a peace proposal is the first step of positive diplomacy by the Ethiopian gov't. It would be wise for Mewa to inquire what was going on in the field of diplomacy. By reading the UN report on those foreign actors in Somalia he should have given an honest assessment of why they are there before he jumps to the band wagon of our enemies. He is just a sell out and a traitor.
This traitor did neither mention nor condemn those external enemies including his master Shabia and other Arab gov'ts who train, finance, and arm the Union of Islamic Courts. Can he really claim to be an Ethiopian national when he indirectly collaborates with the enemies by portraying Ethiopia as the aggressor? Why does he think Eritrea is involved in this conflict? I am sure if asked, Mewa won't be ashamed to tell us that it is to expand democracy in Somalia. The policy is based on the cheap principle of the enemy of my enemy is my friend and to weaken Ethiopia and halt the fast growing wonderful dev't going on in our country.
Mr. Mewa, all this foreign actors in Somalia are to reap some national benefit out of our demise. In the same manner, we have every right to form an alliance with any power for our security and peace. What works for our enemies, should also work for us.
These foreign powers in Somalia are on the side of a political bandit with no international recognition and a central gov't. We have allied with the legitimate, secular, and friendly gov't in Baidowa with full international recognition including the UN, the OAU and with diplomatic ties with a number of countries. What is bad for Ethiopia to give technical support to this legitimate gpv't?
He also tried to tell us that Ethiopia has never invaded a foreign country and was acting as a voluntary witness of "Ethiopia's aggression". Mr. Mewa, please have a grain of reservation before you open your wide mouth on something you don't know? We have every right to stand up to any foreign threat and respond in kind before things get out of control. We can not wait for the threat to mature and create havoc in our country. You can beg our enemies and a threat of war when your party comes to. Shame on you for reflecting a defeatist mentality.
Our country is not a nation of fools who are intimidated by threats and surrender their country to any political bandit and jihadist. Well, you come back singing the old sabotaging rhetoric your old party EPRP. Never forgotten and never forgiven what you and your likes did sabotaging the army from fighting effectively. You allied with the invading Somali forces in the mid 70’sand sabotaged the army from fighting the enemy. You can not fool us twice.
You can be an authority on the conspiracy of AFD, but no more than that. You are really an ugly monster with an ugly mind. If I am a bit harsh, it is done intentionally. We have to start calling a spade a spade.

what is wrong with us who live in this country we ethiopians ?All we do is talking ****''' IF U GOT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT WHO RUN ETHIOPIA GO BACK AND fight!!I am tried people complain about how things should be running. Go back to u country and fight for it. you are not doing anything over here. what was you doing when mengistu did all that??? ***** ass''GET A LIFE... By the way i see people making donation to help knijt. Do u think it will make a difference? Instead of helping u poor family. Why don't u help our people? shame of all my ethiopians people who follow this. "" NO RESPECT FOR SOME ONE STUPID LIKE THIS".Even white American are going to ethiopian adopt an ethiopian princess girl. It's shame for us who live in this country can't even help our own people. shame of u all ethiopians!! That is why ethiopian will be the same **** all the time . I am not blame the government of ethiopia but the people who live in this country ethiopians and ethiopian american who live in usa have responsible for every child and mother ,father. Why we can learn from this great country ? Americans are always help others. when we came to this country to make a difference to our people. Now things are changed!! All i can say may God bless ethiopia and the people back home. Much respect for our country!!

Melse “worobela”and the TPLF gangs are simply doing what their western masters told them to do. When I see the west is using these two poor nations to fight each other for their own interest makes me sick.

What makes me mad is,Melse the dog is manipulated by the west and those Islamic bogeymen by the Arab nations. Saudi Arabia, USA, Iran, Egypt, Merb Melash, Yemen etc. are terrorist nations. This we have to keep in mind.

This should be crystal clear, THIS IS NOT OUR WAR, meant we THE Ethiopians.

This is the war of that edit Melse the American’s salve without dignity and gut. We know it, we the Ethiopians are poor but never bow to the racist American State Department.

Even that murderer Mengistu wouldn’t have done it for all the $s of the world. ICU wouldn’t dare to cross our border. They know it. They just simply couldn’t win any war against the ETHIOIPIANS. Even against the TPLF.

It is a very sad situation to see our Ethiopian and Somalis brothers are dying just for nothing.

Thanks Elias,

Mekonnen

mekonnen,
one thing for yourknowledge is that meles zenawi's strategy of winning is led by feeling and belief in a devilish mind to keep tigreans to be called in power or sovereign

It is too much asking for elias.

But let me tell you this: To hate Melese is one thing, to be anti-ethiopian is anather thing.

How come you say " IUC is not a treat to Ethiopia" ??

Either you do not know politics at all, or you are paied in four digits.

Come to reality. It is a pitty that Mr.Elias Kifle is posting anti-Ethiopian articles paid for huge sum of money. Elias, where is your Nationalism? Why do you stand with the ememy that is claiming Ogaden? I feel you and others like you are traitors and enemies of Ethiopi at this particlar point in time.

Claims over Ogaden is not a new thing, it had been offically adhered by cosecutive Somali regims since its independence. Wayane csn't tell us that Agazi led force is presence in Somalia is justified because of this reason.

And the dogs are barking persisntently to get us new information that ICU declared its ambition to Ogaden. "Yedenkoro lekso melso melalso"

THIS COULD BE AGREAT IDEA IF ETHIOPIANS IN DIASPORA
organise this rally in cojunction with somalian pple around the world .to me this will have a double folds advantage:1)the somalians will be more aware of the the ethiopian pples opposition to the aggression of the tplf(to show as this purely the us and tplf's agenda,not of ethiopians)
2)to show the world that tplf has fabricated the story to divert the world's attention from the home political crisis.
keep the struggle up,it may not fruit today,but wiil soon .

Dear Lemiso,

Thanks for sharing your concern on erroneous journalism and lack of journalistic ethics with Elias Kifle. You are not alone. This man who hangs his hat wherever he gets paid a huge-lump-sum-of-money gives deaf ear and blind eyes to those who long for a balanced view on national matters. Sensitive and security issues are where certain journalists capitalize their fortunes on. This is true when it comes to Elias Kifle who made fortunes by trading creatively coerced sensational news and views for decades. Particularly now, the ground has become fertile for Elias Kifle to get paid for propagating and broadcasting partisan news and views that are ant-Ethiopia and pro-LFists and external enemies of Ethiopia. In recent days we are observing how Elias Kifle has been attempting to dramatize episodes and incidences by blowing them out of proportion and by exaggerating beyond belief. Now he is trying to fan a world-wide demonstration on a clearly visible issue where even the Western Media see the danger engulfing Ethiopia if the war in Somalia is left to the hands of the United Islamic Courts who are being supported by shabby Shaabyia of Eritrea and other Islamic Fundamentalist groups coming from the surrounding regions. Elias has been a sold out Banda journalist who has already taken clear side with shabby Shaabiya and its boot licking foot soldiers like OLF and AFD.

One thing is clear; Elias Kifle, OLF and AFD are traitors. We know that ER and Ethio media Forum are clearly infested by OLF and AFD virus since long. We know few OLF and AFD sympathizers are trying to orchestrate and tell Ethiopians in Diaspora that Ethiopia has no legitimate right to defend its territorial integrity. But hell no to Elias Kifle, ER, OLFists and AFDists. Ethiopian Affairs does not concern traitors like Elias Kifle, OLFists and AFDists. Pro-Ethiopia groups do not need you or your tribal diatribe. Go tell Shaabyia your master. We are marching without you. We will get hold of the Islamic fundamentalist volunteers you sent from Hara, Bale and Arsi few weeks back along with the 2000 Shaabia army right inside Somalia and teach you a good lesson for the treason and terrorist crimes you committed against Ethiopia. Ethiopians shall return victorious. Long Live TPLF and Meles. Down with home-grown OLF and AFD terrorists that play tribal political foot-ball!

Hello ER

Is it full moon every day for these myopic , psychopath TPLF nomads . Every time you mention their masters {melese )name ; these vampires come out from their caves under amharas or oromos nick-name ; howling and crying as if they need a diaper change . It is my humble advise for this delusioned megalomaniac master of yours melesech ), to tell him not to divide and kill . Get off from the back of these impeccable people of ETHIOPIA!!!!!!. Your coward master (melesech )has never been mingled in the crowd of Ethiopia people once in his life ( 15 years hiding in the palace like a poisoend rat )Even Castro mingle and seen in the middle of his beloved people . Your master still dream Enver Xhoja hanging his photo in his bed room . I and the whole peace loving Ethiopian people see him dead like him long time ago . Still dont worry we are that much close!!!!!!. In the end ; dont ever talk about ER regrding opposing melesech operation in Somalia . The new Somali Regime are not as bad as Siad Bare time . They are even rational than melesech your master ; they mined theire own business ;they have their own building up of their ruined country they dont have time to wage a war on they neighbour. Back off !!!again and again !!and again !!! from my people who paid tax so that you can go and finish (for most of you who are on this board now )your elementary and high school. For those of you who are claiming " educated "and opposing ER on this matter ; either you are opportunist or confused .Go ER GO!! Go ER GO !! Go ER GO !!

Love You ETHIOPIA

To Shaabia boot-licking OLF and AFD trators,

Ethiopian Affairs does not concern you and Pro-Ethiopia groups do not need you or your tribal diatribe. Go tell Shaabyia your master. We are martching without you. We will get hold of the Islamic fundamentalist volunteers you sent from Hara, Bale and Arsi few weeks back along with the 2000 Shaabia soldiers right inside Somalia and teach you a good lesson for the treason and terrorist crimes you committed against Ethiopia. Ethiopians shall return victorious. Long Live TPLF and Meles. Down with home-grown OLF and AFD terrorists that play tribal political foot-ball!

Tola or Totora can I ask you just a simple question?

Wayane and the butcher Meles are invading Somalia, because our national interest is at stake. Yeah? How? Because the Jihadists claimed Ogaden as their own. Fine, what is Kenya doing as the Islamists have equally claimed a teritory from that country as well?

Did Kenya contribute any substance to avert the threat posed by the Jihadists? The answer is NO NO NOP....besause ....Kenyans love for their country is much less than the Wayanes? hahahahaha

Bye Tortora

ER what a intelligent leader you are my brother, proud of you for telling the truth inside all of us.
Our enemy is Meles TPLF not somalis. somalis didnot steal our vote and put our leaders in jail But the dictator meles did.
This is the tigrean warlord's war not ours.

Tola, let me tell you a harsh truth, goita. OLF goes no where. It is Melse and his murderer troops that must run to Dedebit, with their tail between their legs. OLF is on its own country and needs to go no where.

Weyane got things his way, because the pro democratic opposition was weak and fragmented. Unless we get an assurance from AFD especially from OLF and Ogaden liberation front about the territorial integrity of our country, we can not blame weyane for his war tactic with Somali ICU. We know Weyane use this opportunity to divert our democratic movement by territorial integrity of our poor country. We know weyane is cashing out of this war, but we should not for get the other side. Somali is using shabia and other strategic enemy of our country which have strategic interest by disintegrating our beloved home land. So the best way for pro Ethiopians is to get assurance from AFD especially from the Ogaden and OLF. Otherwise, it is nonsense to go out for demonstration with separatist group against the territorial integrity of our beloved country. It is a bad news for the Ethiopian people and its democratic movement. IT is a final exam for those who call them self’s AFD.

As ordinary Ethiopian, I am not CONVINCED with the logic used by "kinijit" to protest opposing alledged meles's invasion of Somalia. I do not see a direct connection, as it is described in kinijit's press release, between democracy in ethiopia and UIC situation. I am really concerned voicing opposiiton to war in this way, just to be different with weyane, will cost "kinijit" the trust of Ethiopian people. You guys have to be carefully before screaming on melse. It may discredit you a big time. May be it is a trap melese want you to fall in to.

I am not saying meles is doing good to ethiopian cause to engage in war with ICU. A good reason to oppose the war is simple one. that is, War won't be a solution to anything except creating another problem of its own. to me that logic is enough to get on board to voice my opposition to the war. Anything else definitely drive me away because you conspiracy theory makes me so suspicious your hidden agenda.

I may share your hidden agenda –if it is opposing ruthless melse regime-- but do it proper way.

With respect,

Concerned Ethiopian.

Hahaha,

I heard you complaining about some websites being blocked in Ethiopia just recently. Now you start cutting out comments which expose your absurd intentions. What a democrat!

I repeat until you cut it again. YOU ARE A MUJAHEDEEN!

du