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Guttemaa

Dec 2, 06 - 4:04 PM

We shall win - OLF

The current conflict in Somalia can lead to a regional catastrophe

OROMO LIBERATION FRONT

Press Release

November 29, 2006

The Oromo Liberation Front views the current skirmish between the armed forces of the Somalia’s Union of Islamic Courts and the Ethiopian regime with a grave concern. The skirmish unless contained as a matter of urgency could engulf the Horn of Africa region with devastating consequences. The Horn of Africa is one of the poorest regions of the world and a senseless war, without any doubt, will only exacerbate the disastrous economic, social and political situations created by decades of ethnic oppression, armed conflicts, and drought.

The Oromo people share long historical ties with the people of Somalia. We are mindful that the people of Somalia have lived without a central government for the past 16 years and we value their efforts to rebuild their country. We believe that the people of Somalia must be supported in a positive manner acceptable to them to rebuild their country and shape their future. On the other hand, we consider the interference in the internal affairs of Somalia by the regime of Ethiopia and others to be totally irresponsible. Meles Zenawi’s interference in the volatile situation in Somalia is not only a futile attempt to divert attention from his regime’s abhorrent dictatorship and human rights abuses it is inflicting on Oromos and other people in Ethiopia, but also a dangerous manoeuvre that will have longstanding negative consequences for peace in Northeast Africa as a whole.

Oromia shares a considerable length of border with Somalia. We are seriously concerned that the war between Ethiopia and Somalia would cause further suffering of the Oromo and other peoples, and instability in the region. The Ethiopian regime will yet again squander the resource of Oromia that it controls illegally on its war effort and will send young Oromo conscripts as cannon fodders just as it did in its war against Eritrea in 2000.

The Oromo people will gain nothing from the war between Ethiopia and Somalia and therefore must refrain from collaborating with the Ethiopian regime in the war effort. On the contrary, we call up on the Oromo people to remain focussed on the national liberation struggle to liberate Oromia from Ethiopian colonization.

We would like to remind all involved in the ongoing conflict in Somalia to show restraint and give diplomacy a chance to resolve differences. We would also like to express our concerns to the international community about the looming disaster and urge them to stop the harmful involvement of the Ethiopian regime in Somalia’s internal political affairs.

Oromia shall be free!

Oromo Liberation Front

Tinbuwalel Belachew

Dec 2nd, 2006 - 4:25 PM

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How many OLFs are there?

Berhanu

Dec 2nd, 2006 - 4:38 PM

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There are Five OLFs. Wait for few weeks. You will hear interesting things. The biggest part of OLF became pro-ethiopian. The second one is pro-jara organization. The third one believes they represent only the Original Oromos who are not mixed with any other tribes and those who are living in the southern part of Ethiopia. The others are unkown.

ahmed

Dec 2nd, 2006 - 6:07 PM

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I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN self appointed gun men who call themselves liberation fronts.

The scar left on the soul of the ethiopian people by the tigre liberation front will not heal even in thousands of years.

The hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, massacred by the woyane both in tigraie and the rest of ethiopia, those displaced and uprooted from their villages and homes by the ethno-fasist woyane have continued to suffer.

the fascist woyane have been adding insult to injury on the ethiopian people, adding more misery creating a level of violence and repression that only the woayne are capable of.

what evidence is there to suggest that an ethnic ''liberation'' front in what ever guise they come in can be any better than the tigreaei ''liberation'' front.

These gun men live by violence and murder and can not be trusted to let the people elect their leaders in a democratic manner, once they take power. It will be tigreai people liberation front all over again. They will continue to rape, loot and murder people. The cycle will continue alll over.

Lencha Lalo

Dec 2nd, 2006 - 10:12 PM

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Berhanu
Don't try to be smart, you ---. Rather than dealing with real issues in a positive manner and thereby contribute something worthy of mention you have chosen to cultivate a subversive alternative ethos by trying to redicule an organization which is fondly recognized by millions of Oromos. If you do not have respect for OLF, then you do not have respect for Oromo people.That is what it amounts to. If you do not have respect for Oromo people then we can not live together as one Ethiopian nation. Final solution is to go own different ways. This is what you are advocating when you foolishly tried to categorize OLF into non-existent five groups in your attempt to express your contempt for OLF and the Oromo people. Do you know how many Oromos are in jail suffering from torture, human rights abuse, and excution? You are making fun of these people who are sacrificing their lives for an organization they believe in. I don't think you are writing out of ignorance since information related to relationship between OLF and the Oromo people is in abundance on the internet or in books for one who is interested to learn more.In the future think of ramifications of your writings as related to people in Ethiopia.

Findataw

Dec 2nd, 2006 - 10:49 PM

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Lencho Lalo,

Take it easy man! Don't be too sensitive. Are you going to sesede from your motherland because one nucklehead, berhanu, made fun of OLF? That simply shows you are another nucklehead!

Cheers!

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 1:08 AM

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Let's make something clear for all none-Oromos, especially for people such as Berhanu (above). In essence there is only ONE OLF in Oromo politics. The difference that occured within OLF camp some five years ago was not a substantial or ideological difference. It was just a minor disagreement which understandably can occur even within a family. That difference should have been contained at the right time, but unfortunately it did not happen and that created a mistrust among some the then OLF leaders.

What is clear at this point is both OLF parts or "leaderships" believe on self-determination of Oromo people and that is what matters for us Oromos. We have always been advising each other to keep our MINOR differences and work together for the right of our nation. Except for some very few egoistic individuals almost all Oromos from both sides heed to that principle and excercise self-restraint towards one another. So, no need to dream about the possible creation of FIVE OLFs on the part of some none-Oromo individuals who seek to see Oromos fighting one another. Gone are those days when we Oromos fight each other with or without gun.

There isn't even two OLFs in essence among Oromos today. There is just one OLF, whose main objective is self-determination of Oromo people without any bound.

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Tinbuwalel Belachew

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 1:44 AM

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Giiftii Oromiyaa

why are you so clueless about current OLF issues or are you just hoping we don't know about it?

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 11:58 AM

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T.Belachew,

Kebalebetu yaweke b.... new.

Why don't you tell us the "secret" I am trying to hide from "you (plural)"? I just said both sides of OLF leadership believe on self-determination of Oromos. Is this not true? Do you see any fight or even a minor disagreement on public forums between the two groups? I don't see much. That is the truth. And your dream of trying to create a conflit of some magnitude is not appreciated. It is the work of the devil, so please leave us alone and mind your own business if you have one. ISHII YENE GETA?

Giiftii

Question

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 12:55 PM

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OLF,

There is a world of difference between rhetoric and reality. What has your OLFaccomplished since its inception 44 years ago?

I strongly suggest that you OLF rag tag splitter elements and self proclaimed spokes persons stick to what you are good at and leave the business of governing a nation to those who are capable, to those who have vision, to those who will construct a nation united under the will of the peoples of Ethiopia.

Ormos are neither monolithic nor homogeneous clans. OLF's claim to speak for all Oromo's is over reaching and devoid of reality.

Reality

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 1:24 PM

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Why are Oromos generally percived to be not trust worthy, unprincipled, unrealiable, triablists/clanish (like the somalis), lacking qualities of leadership and vission?

Has their nomadic pastoralist way of life throughout history prevented them from organizing into a cohesive community that coexist with other Ethiopian nationalities.

This is not Amhara, Gurage, Oromo, Kambata..etc inspired political question. I expect and intelligent, thoughtful, and historicaly based response if possible without resorting to another stereotypical self characterization.

The Ethiopian

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 2:44 PM

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All the bickerings I read above make me crave for a "people's dictator" for Ethiopia because I do not see any way of reconciling the different groups representing different interests.By "people's dictator" I mean leaders like Castro and the Chinese leadership who treat all citizens equally.

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 5:38 PM

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"Reality"

You said:

"Has their nomadic pastoralist way of life throughout history prevented them from organizing into a cohesive community that coexist with other Ethiopian nationalities."

Everybody knows that there are a large number of none-Oromos live among Oromos in Oromia than any other region of Ethiopia would admit people of other origin to their areas. Please correct me if I happen to be wrong. Few none-Tigres live in Tigrai. Few none-Amharas live in Amhara (Gojam, Gonder, etc), and so on as compared to the none-Oromos who live in Oromia. Just compare all the regions you know with Oromia in this regard. Now, does this make Oromos "...prevented them from organizing into a cohesive community that coexist with other Ethiopian nationalities" according to your "analysis"? You are "yebelabetin wechit sebari", sorry to say so.

With all due respect sir, please answer the above question of mine. If not, you are not "Reality" but "Falsity" or "Afuuftuu" in Afan Oromo simply because you lied. This is what the natural logic would say, don't blame me. I rest my case about the bickering along this line. I wish you all mind your own business and leave Oromo's affair to Oromos. We are for sure on our way (this time the right way) of taking care of our selves. Thanks to our gallant liberation fighters. Wait and see.

Freedom and Democracy for All!

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Weyannie

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 5:57 PM

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Giiftii Oromiyaa and reality,

First of all the Oromo is free. There is nothing holding him from here on, but poverty and backwardness that is common to all ethiopians.
The Oromo also has achieved a great deal already. Was he called Oromo just few decades ago? Could he teach his children in his own language a decade ago? Could he have his own state and a state that runs its business in his own language and culture a decade ago?
If you don't consider these as achievements you are in for a rude awakening.
The children who grew up in the new ethiopia, oromia in this case are going to university. imagine that.

OLF is lost in the wilderness. The behaviour OLF is showing recently is that of a frustrated and lost organization. OLF is fighting in clan conflicts in South Sudan before OLF was kicked by SPLM. OLF is being used by Isayas to supress the Afar. OLF is deep to its knee in clan conflicts in somalia for the third time.
I am afraid OLF is turning into a racket for use by neighboring countries, rather than the name it carries.
All this is not even mentioning OLF negative role in the pastoralists conflicts in Kenya Ethiopia border and tribal conflicts of pastoralists and villages in poor ethiopia/oromia.

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 7:07 PM

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Woyannie,

OLF and Shabiya are coming through Somalia to eat you alive!!! Run away! ...... or BEG Amharas for mercy so that they can save you!! But.....this time releasing the jailed CUD or otherwise leaders is not going to be enough to grant you forgiveness from the rest of Ethiopians! The bloods of those you killed in day light all over Ethiopia and particularly in Oromiyaa and Finfinnee is crying from the grave! Beseferut kunna, mesefer aykerim!

Ye tagay dimtsi yichohal,
Yichohal kemekabir,......
.........................
Tekkiton tagay alfowal,
Yenyam tegl yiketilal..

Run Woyannie!.......for your life!!

Down with Blood-sucker Woyannie!!
Freedom and Democracy for All!!!

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Yenantew

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 7:43 PM

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Wogenoch!

There are two things that we should bear in mind at this juncture.

One!

Libration is a beautiful word but it requires something to be liberated from. When the OLF was created they thought, I suppose, that you would be librated from the HaileSellassie regime.

Then came the Dergue, so apparently, we all agree, that they should be librated from the dergue.

Well, they were part of the second Dergue (I mean the EPRDF of the TPLF). Even then, they should be librated from what they helped to take shape.

Okay, now let us assume that we are done away with the TPLF dominance in Ethiopia. What would the OLF be librated from. They, I now speculate, must be librated from the culture of Amhara dominance. This is negotiable now. I don't believe that they have created a libration front to create a situation whereby all cultures and people group were considered equal. That could have done by the Mecha and Tullema.

I don't know how the OLF would respond to that.

Second,

Libration in its real sense is libration of the individual person from all forms of domination. I understand that so many of our people must have gone through the communist turmoil. I mean many people were going to group rights than individual liberty. But we all reflect over our past and can esily agree that libration in truth is libration of the individual person. The sovereignity of the individual person precedes the sovereignity of any other affiliation since you require a person to form it.

How does the OLF answer that?

There could be some answers to these two points of mine. Let us talk and see if our ADF is working.

Yenantew

Weyannie

Dec 3rd, 2006 - 11:38 PM

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Giiftii Oromiyaa,

You copied that zeraf from DC very well, but your OLF is manning check points for ICU and also guarding the Kismayo airport for them along with friends from Pakistan. Read this if you want facts about your OLF thats deer in headlights in ICUland while ONLF is getting out in a mad dash:

"They are ... al-Qaida and we do not want them," said Halimo Mohamed, one of the protesters in Kismayo. "Theirs is not a religion. They are terrorists."
Hassan Turki, leader of the Islamic militia, told a demonstration in support of his group in Kismayo earlier Monday that foreign militants were helping his fighters.

"They are your brothers in Islam," Turki said.

Gedo NewsNetwork had this:
"Garoonka diyaaradaha ee magaalada Kismaayo ayaa waxaa iminka gacanta ku haya ciidammo isugu jira Pakistaaniyiin iyo Oromo, kuwaasoo wata gaadiid u gaar ah, iyada oo sidoo kale gudaha magaaladana ay ku dhex mushaaxayaan gaadiid u gaar ah tiiyoo dadka reer kismaayana ay dhagax tuurayaan."
Which just confirms that Kismayo Airport was captured by Oromo and Pakistani fighters and was still manned and secured by Oromo.

You will never hear ONLF getting entangled in someone's clan fights. OLF has done it without fail in all neighboring countries.

Abay Tsehaye

Dec 4th, 2006 - 1:19 AM

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Weyannie. Let me remind you, in cas you have forgotten, how Meles and his agazi milisha entered Minilik's palace.

When Ethiopians and Somalis fought back in 1974, Meles and his militia army from Tigrai were at the fore front of the battle fighting Ethiopia from Somalia's side.

When Shabias were massacring poor, innocent children of ethiopia, again Meles and his militia were busy slitting our brthers throats with Isayas.

Now the same Meles, who once was a sworn enemy of Ethiopia and Ethiopians, is telling us that Somalians and Eritreans are trying to diintegrate Ethiopia.

Do you think such a person who never had a solid stance in his short life can be believed, not in the world i live in. I am not sure about you.

Mootoomaa

Dec 4th, 2006 - 4:27 AM

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No you won't win any thing !! Leading a country requires a loving heart, faith, humanity, positivity, being wise and open to diversity !

Some can lead a country, some can lead a good family, some can preach relegion, some can lead " edir, equb " and some can lead in " irrucha " you have to fit to lead. You can not just dream a wining by just creating a baseless tribal groups if you know what I mean ! you are in a widely diverse and strongly tied society.

am

Dec 4th, 2006 - 6:37 AM

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1991 and what happened thereafter were turning points in the history of the OLF that the people who were crying foul were eventually vindicated. Now some of those same “leaders” are acknowledging what we have already known for years; and that is they never meant what they had been saying and what they really believe is that there is not an Oromia or Oromo to be liberated. Hassan Hussen of the OLF actually told a gathering of Qinijit supporters a few weeks ago that there is no Oromia to be liberated. Is that not a big fat joke if it wasn’t so tragic? They told countless people to rise up and fight for their country, got thousands up on thousands murdered by successive Ethiopian regimes and now they are telling us “sorry we really did not mean that.” What I am writing used to be branded “allegation” by some people a few months ago, it is not any longer an “allegation” by OLF’s own admission. They are telling us now, in no uncertain terms, what they really meant was to use the Oromo cause as a pawn to negotiate for government posts in murderous Ethiopian regimes and hence a better life for themselves and their cronies. These people have the blood of innocent Oromos on their hands and it is our responsibility to stop them now. You can go to www.awofio.com, click on the radio link and listen to the excerpt of Hassan Hussen’s speech to Qinijit supporters. I’m sure most Oromos will be vindicated but some of you will be shocked to hear that.There is a big misunderstanding about OLF, ONAG with its Amharic acronyms, by non-Oromos. A lot of these people probably heard Oromos back home shout out the name “OLF” or even Mr. Meles Zenawi Marketing “ONAG” to the people (more about that in a jiffy.) What “OLF” signifies to the Oromo people is the sacrifice of true nationalists many of whom have paid the ultimate price. The Oromo people know that the Oromo liberation Front has been hijacked by a group calling itself Shanee Gumii. This is the same
group that had been sabotaging the Oromo struggle for decades.On the other hand, Mr. Meles Zenawi knows (one can argue he is even a member) that the OLF leadership is so incompetent and accusing the OLF, in public, serves his purpose in a big way. Meles’ purpose is the prevention of a lethal Oromo liberation organization from coming to pass. How did he do that? Meles figured out that the Oromo people, or at least some, would embrace any seemingly Oromo organization
that he accuses, in public, of fighting his regime. By so doing Meles made some Oromos accept OLF, an organization that Meles knew was laughably incompetent and could not do any damage to his regime.With all the odds against them, Oromo nationalists, however, are always a step ahead of Meles and his regime. Imagine, with all of the resources at his disposal and destroying Oromo nationalism and Oromo liberation movement his number one goal, Oromo liberation movement has not only survived Meles’ genocidal wars for fifteen years, it has actually emerged
stronger than ever. The day will come when Meles and his criminal gangsters will be held to account for crimes against Humanity.Just like an unfaithful wife might do once caught, the OLF leadership is now openly married to Qinijit; an organization that is adamantly opposed to the Oromo cause of national liberation. Qinijit probably thinks the OLF leadership can deliver the Oromo people to them just like OPDO delivered to Meles. Well I have got news to you; your worst fear has materialized. OLF leaders are married to you not because they can deliver the Oromo to you it is because they are running away from the Oromo. The Oromo people now have a potent organization and the liberation of Oromia is just a matter of time. And it is going to come sooner than a lot of you think, if you had the courage to even contemplate that. The OLF leadership you are counting on is inconsequential.By the way, the marriage between Qinijit and the promiscuous OLF seems to be headed south. The OLF is now begging Kenya to reunite them with Meles. There is no telling what this group will concoct next. As the Oromo proverb goes, one can’t outrun his shadows. These people will not escape justice by running to Qinijit, Meles or anywhere else for that matter. Justice will be served to them wherever they may be.Finally, we call upon members and OLF leaders not tainted by this scandal to rise up and take charge. We call up on you to expunge these traitors and join forces with genuine Oromo liberation movements to make the home stretch of our liberation journey as quick as possible. Our prize is within eyesight and there is no force short of an act of God that will be able to stop us; and we know God stands with those seeking what is truly theirs

Babile Tola

Dec 8th, 2006 - 4:00 PM

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Dear all,

Thanks for sharing your concerns on the erroneous journalism and lack of journalistic ethics with Elias Kifle. You are not alone. This man who hangs his hat wherever he gets paid a huge-lump-sum-of-money gives deaf ear and blind eyes to those who long for a balanced view on national matters. Sensitive and security issues are where certain journalists capitalize their fortunes on. This is true when it comes to Elias Kifle who made fortunes by trading creatively coerced sensational news and views for decades. Particularly now, the ground has become fertile for Elias Kifle to get paid for propagating and broadcasting partisan news and views that are ant-Ethiopia and pro-LFists and external enemies of Ethiopia. In recent days we are observing how Elias Kifle has been attempting to dramatize episodes and incidences by blowing them out of proportion and by exaggerating beyond belief. Now he is trying to fan a world-wide demonstration on a clearly visible issue where even the Western Media see the danger engulfing Ethiopia if the war in Somalia is left to the hands of the United Islamic Courts who are being supported by shabby Shaabyia of Eritrea and other Islamic Fundamentalist groups coming from the surrounding regions. Elias has been a sold out Banda journalist who has already taken clear side with shabby Shaabiya and its boot licking foot soldiers like OLF and AFD.

One thing is clear; Elias Kifle, OLF and AFD are traitors. We know that ER and Ethio media Forum are clearly infested by OLF and AFD virus since long. We know few OLF and AFD sympathizers are trying to orchestrate and tell Ethiopians in Diaspora that Ethiopia has no legitimate right to defend its territorial integrity. But hell no to Elias Kifle, ER, OLFists and AFDists. Ethiopian Affairs does not concern traitors like Elias Kifle, OLFists and AFDists. Pro-Ethiopia groups do not need you or your tribal diatribe. Go tell Shaabyia your master. We are marching without you. We will get hold of the Islamic fundamentalist volunteers you sent from Hara, Bale and Arsi few weeks back along with the 2000 Shaabia army right inside Somalia and teach you a good lesson for the treason and terrorist crimes you committed against Ethiopia. Ethiopians shall return victorious. Long Live TPLF and Meles. Down with home-grown OLF and AFD terrorists that play tribal political foot-ball!

Weyannie

Dec 8th, 2006 - 4:32 PM

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Abay Tsehaye,

What can't you understand from the picture of the ethiopian parliament and Meles response to Aite Lidetu Ayalew.

Look at the picture again.
Prime minister Meles beside Minister Mohammed Dirir Thats TPLF and WSLF during the Derg years. They were together and still are together.
If it wasn't for this relationship and understanding, I don't think Aite Hailu Shawol who even did not compete in an election in Somali state let alone to talk, negotiate, reconcile anyone.

The somali people are in 4 to 5(in case you see Somaliland as a country) countries, but somalia is one of these countries.

Do not confuse the two.

Mekki

Dec 8th, 2006 - 4:37 PM

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Guttema

OLF can not do it alone. Dont drag us back to the old disunited opposition. AFD is the only way out!!!

A. Geremew

Dec 9th, 2006 - 7:23 AM

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Gutte Guttete,

OLF is a historical criminal and the enemy of the Oromo Ethiopians. Get it.

A. Geremew

Dec 9th, 2006 - 7:42 AM

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It is God's power to hear good things from some innocent Oromos about the unity and integrity of Ethiopia.

Everybody should notice that dogs have surrounded us; a band of evil men have encircled Ethiopians. These people are the leaders of OLF who held a secret meeting in Asmara with their master, Isayias in late November night. I swear in God that OLF top official was agreed to the concensus of ONLF and SLF to join the Somalia Jihadist to fight their Ethiopian brothers at the border and the Ogaden areas.

My worry is not about the TPLF brutals. I felt uncomfortable like many concerned Ethiopians if the invasion become real. What is a guarantee for OLF and the likes on this premise if the Islamic court come acroos our territory? How the hell we keep silent if they penetrate our border. A mission of this invasion is fully supported by the OLF led AFD allies. It is very terrible situation. What a disgrace generation it is lacking a dignity and a moral strength to think about his being and the mother land?

Dinqnesh

Dec 9th, 2006 - 8:42 AM

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Ato A:Geremew:

I have nothing to do with the OLF that is fighting rightly for its rights just like those innocent elected leaders languishing in Wayyane jails and fighting for their rights in their own ways.

But your disgraceful blaming of the victims for their modest moves to stand for their natural rights is totally shameful to say the least. Master liers, war and violence perpetrators, poverty and hoplessness propmoters, and dehumanizers of the Ethiopian people like you cannot be talking about the encircling of Ethiopia.

If at all there is any encircling, it is an encircling of a facist and brutal genocide perpetrator dictatorship bent on eliminating Ethiopians from the face of the earth and from the inside. These genocide and violence perpetration and dehumanizations have long been documented and protested by the international communities such as the European Union, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, US congress, etc.

But the close and practical task of reversing the unheard of brutalities being carried out from the inside by facists like you in the name of Ethiopia is left to the entire opposition who should tighten up their belts, see the big picture, build firm unity within diversity,and then courageously and firmily remove the brutal facists from the necks of the wretched Ethiopian people. How long should the Ethiopian people need to be manipulated, massacared, jailed and expelled from their homelands.

The Opposition can come from any where, any direction, at any time without or with any announcements and asking any permission from the enemy. Even the opposition which overthrew Idi Amin Dada's dictatorship in Uganda came from Tanzania, though have strong supporters from the inside.

Nazi Hitler's victorious oppositions came from Europe as well as from the USA.

During the Vietnamese war, the main opposition vietkong also came from China and the other neighbuoring countries.

The ANC (African National Congress) liberator freedom fighters against the South African Apartheid facist regime was also based in several African and other continents from where they waged the struggle and finally liberated the nation from the facist grip.

The Southern Sudanese freedom fighters were also basedin several African countries including Eritrea, from where they waged their struggle and are now close to achieving their goal. The TPLF and EPLF groups were in Somalia, and other continents before they managed to achieve their goals. And the list may go on and on.

So, what is your empty self serving propaganda bragging ato geremew?

A. Geremew

Dec 9th, 2006 - 9:06 AM

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Dinkenesh,

Shame on you Emebet Dinkenesh. It is the nature of this forum to get a bunch of separatists like you. Don't think like the useless enthusiast OLFist, ONLFist, SLFist. Please think like the compatriot Ethiopians. The Jihadists have a right to fight for their sovereignity, but no way to keep silent if they penetrate our territory. Again it is shame to hear you are Ethiopian. MAFERIA.

Babile Tola

Dec 9th, 2006 - 12:35 PM

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To Giiftii and all other OLF Caderes in ER,

Please be advised that it is now time to do the right thing for all Oromos to reorganize as true Ethiopians.

The OLF hardliners aspiring to form dictatorship with the mask of freedom by now is under way and it is really shame of the OLF leaders if they stand by the side of the SOMALI ISLAMIC COURT. The Oromo people can look further how bad the situation is. We have strong desire for Ethiopian unity with diversity by executing the Amhara chauvinism to an end.

We have a moral to work with the Oromo defensive groups for the well being of our idntity and any honest and devoted party is welcome to lead the Oromos for the bright future.

Other than this, any front or party that get itself on the conflicting interst of the Oromos and other oppressed Ethiopians shall bring neither freedom nor democracy.

The priority that ought to be urgently addressed is to be united as the Shewa, Arsi, Bale, Wollo and other Oromo Ethiopians as a defensive Oromo unit to fight Woyane to reach to success towards freedom, democracy and better future.

Our sense of humour can predict the good and the bad scenarios. Unity with diversity should be our slogan. We Oromos are the responsible people as a clear majority to take the leadership part to build the new Ethiopia.

Shaaqa

Dec 9th, 2006 - 4:08 PM

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Babile Tola:

Some times you describe yourself by implication as some one Amhara who is working to eliminate chavinist racist Amahras. At other times you characterize yourself as an oromo who is working for unity within diversity, and futher talking about oromos of that area, oromos of this areas, upstream Oromos, down stream oromos, etc., etc.

Confused scribblings or deliberate distortions? What is the matter with you buddy??

Please enlighten me!

Dinqnesh

Dec 9th, 2006 - 5:40 PM

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D.geremew:

You like barking and hauling like an old hyena about to face his last days.

Remeber that you have not even an iota of solutions to the prevailing problems in Ethiopia except your routine decadent reciclings of your old buuuul shiiiiits. Even though you are one of the most spinless empty bickerer on this forum trying to feed us with your empty and stinky garbages, you dare to say, "shame on you," when you must be told to be ashamed of yourself a thousand times. Get up and go to stand infront of a large morror and look at yourself critically if you dare. Shame on you a thousand and one times PIG! Tell me what you can do with your old and rusty brain that might only be partially useful for the 18th century world.

Babile Tola

Dec 9th, 2006 - 5:59 PM

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Dear Shaaqa,

I am not Amhara. I am an Oromo who whishes to see unity within diversity. That is the true character of me.

Shimellis

Dec 9th, 2006 - 6:43 PM

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Babile Tola:

If you are an Oromo as you claim, have you ever been publicly sympathising with the oppressed oromo people who have been enslaved for the last over onehundred years and are still being held hostage by the Wayyane.? Where is your public condemnations, calling a spade a spade, and defending justice against injustice?

Are you the house ****** who have been completely and absolutely brain washed, programmedand and enslaved for life, having no dignity, liberty and identity?

You must be taken to the Oromo priest in Oromia and get you exorccised inorder to expell the demon that inhabits you body and soul. What do you think about my suggestion buddy??

Babile Tola

Dec 10th, 2006 - 2:07 PM

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Dear Shimellis,

I have three children. My oldest son is married to an Amhara woman from Gojam and he love her so much. one of my two daughters is married to a Chaha-Gurage and the two have migrated to the USA by obtaining the DV-Lottery Visa. My last daughter is going steedy with a young Addis Ababa City boy. So what is left of me that makes me claim purity? I was not born to be an Oromo by choice but by coinsidence. But I love to remain Oromo. I love also to intermingle and live with my extended family members coming from different roots other than my own. I have never been political. I lived peacefully with my family and friends in Dire Dawa most of my life. Now I am a cub-driver here in Diaspora. So if you feel I am not the right type of Oromo, then help me and guide me to become one. One thing is sure. I love my country Ethiopia - that I call as Shama Bure - more than any thing. Thank you brother for your question and hope you understand my feelings.

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Dec 10th, 2006 - 3:25 PM

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Bible Tola,

I think I can understand why you are in identity crisis. Married to Amhara, Gurage, bla bla. Does this have naything to do with the natural right of the Oromo people? Do you think Oromos should be stripped of their God given freedom just because you sleeped with some Habesha woman and get a child or because your daughter is in love with some Gojame? Or perhaps some Woyane? Why don't you think a little bit away from your nose?

The basic question that Oromos are asking is to be masters of their affairs, and not to interfere into the love or marriage choice of individuals. Who cares if you marry a devil let alone a human being such as Gojame or Tigre?

Giiftii

Giiftii

babb

Dec 10th, 2006 - 5:03 PM

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giftiioromo,

the main oppressor of the oromo are the self appointed elites who claim to reresent oromo or tigre or amhara etc. it is like the woyane. we all know the woyane are criminal gun men who are riding on the back of the poor, not only of tigres but also the rest the ethiopian people; and they stated their carrers by calling themselves the liberators of the tigreais.
I am sure it is not difficult to see what the tigrae liberation front did. if you want to see it, the evidence is all around you.

it is sad turn of events that , whilst the rest of the world is competing in science and technology to land on other planets, I am discussing with you the merits of an ethnic liberation front who have no respect for the dignity and rights of the people they say they represent.

the woyane have been flogging, raping and murdering the tigreai peasant for decades. With the experience they obtained in the bush, they embarked on their campaign of plunder and looting on a large scale once they marched to addis.
It is no different whether it is GLF, PPLF, OLF, MMLF, EPLF, YLF or any other ''liberation''front.

they can not and do not have the capacity to enable the poor people to get one decent meal a day or to be free from disease, illitracy and malnutrition.
we can all see this as the basic necessity of all human beings. Yet the people of africa have to endure hardship and suffering brought about by people who start as their ''liberators''.

Do you know that children in africa and espcially those living under the yolk of fascism and ethno-fascim have a stunted growth because they do not have enough to eat while they grow up.

Do you know that people in these countries live in fear for fear of being persecuted for what they say or write about and for their political opinion, ethnicity race or relegion.

What is the answer you might ask.

My answer to you is this. oppression is not confined to one race or relegion. Oppressors come from all sorts of back grounds. Mussollini did not hesitate to kill millions of his own people simply because they speak like him and his language.

zenawi or afeworki have not spared the ives of hundreds of thousands of tigreais simply because his blood line is from tigreai, or that zenawi/afeworki speak tigrgna.

Do not fool yourself that if an ormom rules you you will be free. Real freedom for a tigreai person is not being ruled by zenawi. I dont think the majority of tigreains believe that.

It is not whether the cat is black or white. The main thinkg is that it catches mice. It is not whether the doctor is an amhara or a tigreai or a gurage, the main thing is that the patient is cured fronm his disease.

please see sense.

babb

Dec 10th, 2006 - 5:35 PM

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ctd,

all people seek freedom and justice. freedom and justice are not the soley the exclusive rights of the weathy and developed countries. we all need freedom and democracy to grow as a society, to live in peace with out fear and persecution.
we all have to join hands and fight for the rights of the oppressed whoever and wherevr they might be. Onlt=y then acn we be truly free.

Balcha

Dec 10th, 2006 - 5:37 PM

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Dear Babb,

Thanks for this rational view/ I was so exahusted of partisan politics. Yours is by far bi-partisan.

Balcha

Dec 10th, 2006 - 5:47 PM

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Somalia: Government Press Release regarding current hostilities

Transitional Federal Government of Somali Republic
Ministry of Information

MINISTRY OF INFORMATION
BAIDOA
10TH OF DECEMBER, 2006

PRESS STATEMENT

The Transitional Federal Government is following the events that are taking place in the country with alarm particularly the ICU‘s constant aggression, war mongering and the influx of foreign terrorists in the southern regions of our country.

Thousands of Eritrean and other foreigners, who are answering ICU’s call for “jihad”, are pouring into ICU-held regions. Our intelligence sources also indicate increased flow of arms shipments from Eritrea and abroad.

Furthermore the Government views the attack on the Government garrison in the Dinsoor district as a blatant attempt to expand into areas in Bay and Gedo regions. It was also an attempt to heighten the already tense situation in and around Baidoa. For instance the ICU is massing troops in both Buurhaka and Dinsor which are in the East and South of Baidoa respectively

The Government has welcomed the new Security Council resolution 1725 in which the Council has authorized a Protection and Training mission to Somalia and called upon the Union of Islamic Courts to cease further military expansion.

The Council also urged the Transitional Federal Government and the Union of Islamic Courts to unite behind and continue a process of dialogue and recommit to the principles of Khartoum I and II. In this regard the Transitional Federal Government welcomes the continuation of the peace process in line with principles of Khartoum I and II and urges other Somali parties to recommit to peace and dialogue.

The Islamic Courts, instead of ceasing their expansion and committing to peace and dialogue, have increased their military expansionist activities and their belligerence to new heights in clear violation of their obligation under Resolution 1725.

The TFG draws the attention of the international community to the grave danger that the current situation poses to peace and stability in Somalia and the region and would like the issue addressed urgently.

Giiftii Oromiyaa

Dec 10th, 2006 - 10:38 PM

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Babb,

I wish I engaged with you along the line of thought you just started. But I have had enough of people like you and it looks like you are a new comer to this area. I decline to waste my time trying to "teach" you the relation ship between individual freedom and collective rights. But in short, I will tell you this. Do not attempt to skip national/nationality issue when it is shaking the Empire in front of your nose. THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE AND DEAL WITH IT. As I said many times you have two tough choices to make, namely: New Ethiopia - which recognizes the rights of all people OR No Ethiopia at all. That is the hard truth. Trying to skip the burning question of the Empire doesn't take you anywhere.

For your information, in Oromiyaa, the current breed of generation which we call QUBEE GENERATION doesn't even know how to write even their names in Amharic. Is this unimportant issue that doesn't require any attention to you? I say, you better open your eyes and see the objective reality in the country rather than trying to look like supper-civilized a person who considers a "tribal" issue backward. What if I take power and impose Afan Oromo language on you by force? Are you going to react or you remain with your sanity and accept my way and start learning Afan Oromo? Since you are supper-civilized, you don't deal with tribal issue right? See the reality?

With all due respect I ask you to keep your mouth shut on our affair; it is none of your business.

Freedom and Democracy for All!

Giiftii Oromiyaa

A.Geremew

Dec 11th, 2006 - 4:25 AM

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Emebet Dinqnesh,

My name is not D.Geremew. Please correct it as A.Geremew. It is not me in my old image. It is you who think two centuries back and classically sing the rythm of opperession opperession opperession, an endless nightmare. When do you get out of this and think as a proud and civilised nation? You are infected by OLF poisonous ethnic politics. Dinkem Dinqnesh

Dinqnesh

Dec 11th, 2006 - 5:10 PM

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A.Geremew:

You must be kidding. It is your racist and self serving Nazi ideology of domination that brought mother Ethiopia to its current death bed. Since you are not able to save her, you try to push her down the drain just along the same disgraceful old routes. Shame on you for robbing the futurity of the that country.

Weyannie

Dec 11th, 2006 - 5:56 PM

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Who is missing in this picture?
http://www.americanchronicle.com//articlePics/article17709.jpg

A.Geremew

Dec 12th, 2006 - 9:03 AM

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Dinqnesh,

What do you mean by Nazi ideology? Nazism was the identity for the German enthusiasts and you may get the symbol of the feature with the skin headed right in Germany. Where is it now other than that corner.I found it funny that you 're escaping far apart from the agenda again funny to read all trashes. Ofcourse evils like OLF are harvesting the sown hatred in Ethiopia and this is the area you and me have to fight it for good for our future. This is the area we have to fight the separatists agenda to the end.

Dinqnesh

Dec 12th, 2006 - 10:01 AM

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A.Geremew:

How can you afford to be so dumb and down right dull fellow Ethiopian??

You donot know even to whom you are talking and whom you are addressing. I am not the OLF neither am I the so called sparatists who are referring to and from whom your are so immenselly afraid and causing you peeing in your dirty trousers.

Are you talking from a hospital meant for dementia? You must be afraid because they might impose upon you true democracy that treats all Ethiopians equally, inclusively, representatively, etc., without any exclusive privilages for the minority black nazi dictators trying to monopolize power in the name of democracy.

Talk to them directly about that, not to me, because I am only an ordinary individual Ethiopian who support democracy, plurality, inclusiveness, equality, prosperity, peace, security and a better life for all Ethiopians and beyond. That is also why I donot accept your hollow braying about this and about that categories of people, neither your bakrupt definitions of as to who is the good Ethiopian and who is not.

For your information, Nazis are not only Germans, but even the kuklux clan in the US, the South African Apartheid racist exrulers, and any group or individual who promotes the interest of one particula group for the domination and exploitation of all others can also be characterized as a sweat head Nazi *******.

Nazism is not based on colour, religion, region, race, etc. It is an ideology that knows no boudary. So, better update your corrupt rusty knowledge, because you are just that sweat head Nazi, regardless of your colour, religion, race or space.

If you are promoting Chauvinist minority Wayyane, or Amhara rule, while yelling and barking at people who are interested to escape from minority brutal dictatorial system and governance, your efferts are only black Nazi efforts to be combated by all meanses.

How can you talk of any democracy that neither exists in your traditional values, nor in your political culutres down the historical line to the present?

But keep on trying to fish for your expansionist nazi idealogy if you can find some confused and doomed supporters! But you do not need to brag about the OLF or what ever else causes you pee in your trouser, but talk to me as a corncered Ethiopian discussing current relevant affairs.

BBK

Dec 12th, 2006 - 5:19 PM

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Dear all,

CUD is dead shot on the head by D-Befekadu and Askale Dama. These EPRP-clandistine committee members are dangerous snakes poisoning opposition fronts by their poisonous pen of venum. We must fight against the two before they kill OLF-spirit in the ER Forum.

A.Geremew

Dec 13th, 2006 - 8:16 AM

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Dinqnesh,

Being part of the world you live in, the future for you is trying to build a good relationship with a group of people who are like minded, kindred spirits for better future in Ethiopian politics. What ever the differences are on board, you need to treat them formally. How could on Earth I pee*** on my pant? What about you Dinqiti? you need to learn ethically the code of conduct the way you present your comment. God bless you Dinqe.

Dinqnesh

Dec 13th, 2006 - 9:03 AM

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A.Geremew:

If you also practice what you are trying to preach, we would have already gone a long distance in terms building understanding.

Characterizing a person's behavior as peeeeing in his/her trouser is a much more modest and miserably harmless expression, than characterizing entire groups of people as tribalist, separates,etc. and vulgarly spread hate and divisions between communities of people as a whole.

You offend broad oppressed national and subnational groups, whereas admittidely, I might be offending only one individual's behavior.

Who is more at wrong??? It is true though, we should focus on what will unite all of us for the common goal of building true democracy that works for all.

I know for sure that the Organizations you seem to be hating, that is to say, the OLF, SLF,ONLF, etc. represents between 45-50 million Ethiopians out of some 77 million total population. And you take upon yourself as your duty to insult and rant at them on every occasion. Is that building unity in diversity in a multinational state finding itself in big trouble?

Building unity within diversity is a matter of giving and taking and arriving at some satisfactory level of understanding for building a democratic common future.

My way or no way is an already dead subway. If you only hear without listening, there is no way forwards. We must listen to every one's genuine concerns with empathy, specially to those historically wronged and currently brutalized.

dedeb gala

Dec 13th, 2006 - 2:34 PM

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gifti you are the a real dedeb gala ! kene mulu tikimu ena gidetaw .. you and you stpid olf are stupid good for nothing mf .. shup up and do what ever you have to do weregna

A. Geremew

Dec 14th, 2006 - 8:22 AM

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Dinqnesh,

Madam Dinqe, You are really sick. How on earth you have confirmed the totalitarian OLF represent millions of people? Shame on you again.

I feel exhauseted of you and utterly drained. I would obviously grade you the most idiot old lady lagging to understand the real thing what is going on. You jump left and right with your follies ideas.

Dinqiti, your deviousness is a lack of sense that make you incense about the hisorical criminal-OLF. You may have some sort of stress that makes you mad so good to get the psychiatry help soon.

Dinqiti, I am not a hardhearted person. I will pray for you to get your soul back.

Dear God, she find it difficult to know what to believe. Help her to accept that eventhough she can't understand everything. She can always trust you and what you say in the bible. Lord God, as she read your book and pray, halp her to know your way, which will always be right for her, and then to make the right decision. Amen.

God bless you Dinqe

Dinqnesh

Dec 14th, 2006 - 5:20 PM

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A.geremew:

We do not need to rant sensless buuuul shiiiits, since actions and realities need to decide the out come of the struggle. Shabby EPRP/nafatgna dog like you may keep on playing their broken tape recorders up to the end of the world. Lunatics like you may attend to your mad logic but you will not be allowed to own neither the Oromo, Somali, Sidama, etc. oppressed peoples just like your spinless brute predecessors.

There is no way you may be able to enslave the Oromo and the other oppressed in to the 21st and 22nd centuries.

If it is not the OLF that does not reperesent the Oromo people, do you think spinless naftagnas may replace the orgnaization? Shame on you moron!

Toomma

Dec 14th, 2006 - 6:00 PM

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OLF is dead
Shot on the head
By its master
Mother of all trouble
The good old EPLF
For a donation dollar
Before going for a war
In Somalia to conquer
Its junior master
the bloody Woyane Worrior!

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